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	<title>Comments on: Star Wars security</title>
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	<description>Thoughts of a minor lunatic</description>
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		<title>By: petrilli</title>
		<link>http://blog.amber.org/2005/09/21/star-wars-security/#comment-2964</link>
		<dc:creator>petrilli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 00:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I do believe profiling is the best method, I just don't believe that _racial profiling_ is that useful. What you need to do is behavioral profiling -- i.e. pay attention to people's behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I do believe profiling is the best method, I just don&#8217;t believe that <em>racial profiling</em> is that useful. What you need to do is behavioral profiling&#8212;i.e. pay attention to people&#8217;s behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://blog.amber.org/2005/09/21/star-wars-security/#comment-2883</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you are saying that profiling is better than IDs?

If not what is it that you are proposing to take the place of IDs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you are saying that profiling is better than IDs?</p>
<p>If not what is it that you are proposing to take the place of IDs?</p>
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		<title>By: petrilli</title>
		<link>http://blog.amber.org/2005/09/21/star-wars-security/#comment-2859</link>
		<dc:creator>petrilli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, I suppose I left out the cost of forgery.   The Subway stuff is trivial to forge, so people don't have any reason not to do so.  This is the reason people don't fake nickles -- the cost of forgery is higher than the value received.

The point I was trying to make was that so long as we continue to inbue more and more value into these "government issued IDs" the forgers will continue to work harder to reproduce them. I have actually seen several forged driver's licenses which were detectable only because they were actually _better made_ than the real ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, I suppose I left out the cost of forgery.   The Subway stuff is trivial to forge, so people don&#8217;t have any reason not to do so.  This is the reason people don&#8217;t fake nickles&#8212;the cost of forgery is higher than the value received.</p>
<p>The point I was trying to make was that so long as we continue to inbue more and more value into these &#8220;government issued IDs&#8221; the forgers will continue to work harder to reproduce them. I have actually seen several forged driver&#8217;s licenses which were detectable only because they were actually <em>better made</em> than the real ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug S</title>
		<link>http://blog.amber.org/2005/09/21/star-wars-security/#comment-2857</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said: "So long as the ID has exceptional value, people will forge them..."

Even things with "unexceptional" value are being forged. Both Subway and ColdStone are doing away with their current frequent buyer incentive programs due to forgery losses.

http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,68909,00.html

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said: &#8220;So long as the ID has exceptional value, people will forge them&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Even things with &#8220;unexceptional&#8221; value are being forged. Both Subway and ColdStone are doing away with their current frequent buyer incentive programs due to forgery losses.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,68909,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,68909,00.html</a></p>
<p>Doug</p>
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